Saiful's sperm in own anus...

Australian DNA expert Dr Brian McDonald remained on the witness stand for the second consecutive day in the Anwar Ibrahim sodomy trial.

McDonald, who is the fourth defence witness, testified yesterday that chemist Dr Seah Lay Hong's testing was not according to international standards following errors in labelling and not swiping the sample on a receptacle.

This follows the discovery that two out of 10 samples having faulty labels when it was stated on the container that they were taken on June 26, 2008. This was despite that the medical examination was done on the alleged victim, Mohd Saiful Bukhari Azlan, on June 28.

McDonald also testified such incompetence behaviour could have resulted in the chemist being “sacked” from his or her job.

It was also revealed that the Chemistry Department's forensic division has yet to receive the international accreditation required when it was placed on probation in 2005. The probation had been extended twice since 2010, and it will end this October.

McDonald, who is also an evaluator for the 17250 international certification and standards, said that the chain of movement of evidence and the treatment of samples were vital in any investigation.

LIVE REPORTS

9.15am: Court proceeding begins with High Court justice Mohamad Zabidin Mohd Diah presiding.

9.16am: DNA expert Dr Brian McDonald called to take the witness stand to continue his testimony.

9.35am: McDonald explains how a chemical called DTT is used to break sperm cell to retrieve DNA.

He says the samples were not label properly - they were only labelled B1 to B9.

9.42am: McDonald says chemist Dr Seah did not indicate where the swab came from. "The HKL (Hospital Kuala Lumpur) doctors did not use the same numbering system employed by her.

"We have to assume where the swab came from as this is not reflected in Seah's report," he adds. McDonald says Seah must verify whether the sample came from the anal and rectum in sodomy cases.

"It could come from a cigarette butt. Seah did not provide the information in the report. She has not reported anything on the sample whether it came somewhere or another."

9.51am: McDonald says what we have is DNA attributed from the complainant. "That is the case of the complainant's semen is in his rectum," he says.

9.53am: McDonald says you cannot assume Saiful's sperm is in his own rectum.

9.54am: The witness alleges Seah did not do the test properly as the complainant's DNA should not be there. "I would say Seah's evidence is a guess."

Ram: Why is that?

Dr McDonald: Because she did not make a slide on the receptacle. That is only way to determine.

9.58am: McDonald says it is possible that Saiful's sperm was in his anus.

"If she had done it properly, we can cut out on such a possibility. The sample taken cannot be relied on cause (it contain Saiful's DNA)."

Ram: Can we conclusively say that Saiful's sperm is not in his anus?

McDonald: No, she is guessing that there are other cells. She did not do the DEP test properly.

10.04am: McDonald says the Male Y is predominant in B7 the low rectal swab.

(It was earlier testified that 'Male Y' DNA was found on B7, B8 and B9.)

10.05am: McDonald says Saiful's DNA was predominant in B8 - the high rectal swab.

10.07am: McDonald says, "We cannot discount Saiful's sperm was up in his own anus."

10.15am: The DNA expert explains the strenuous process necessary to isolate sperm where the samples had "to clean" a couple of times.

10.17am: Defence lawyer Ram Karpal who has been doing the examination-in-chief of McDonald requests for a brief break.

Judge orders the court to stand down.

10.50am: Court resumes.

11.02am: McDonald goes through the results of the samples taken from Saiful.

11.21am: McDonald says there are partial profiles from the test conducted, but he cannot say whether it was re-amplified.

11.26am: McDonald says from the graph, one can tell the degrees of degradation of the sample. He now moves on to the B7 swab profile, taken from Saiful's lower rectum.

11.31am: McDonald explains this is a mixture of two samples including that of Male Y. There are no signs of degradation.

Ram: Yesterday you said the sample was taken after 56 hours from Saiful's rectum and it was given to the chemist after 48 hours. This is more than 100 hours.

McDonald: The profile which appears in B7 (contradicts) with the history because (it's a good profile and not one that is 100 hours old).

11.35am: They now look at the B8 swab, another high rectal swab. McDonald says there is a dominant presence of complainant Saiful's DNA.

"There is a mixture of Male Y and complainant, and the dominant is the complainant.

"There is no evidence of degradation," says McDonald.

11.38am: Moving on to the B9 low rectal swab, McDonald says the DNA is in pristine condition and the specimen is a mixture, contradicting the sample's history.

"There is no evidence of degradation, and this is inconsistent with its history." he says.

(Note: These samples were said to be more than 100 hours old and had not been kept in the suggested manner, in a freezer. Therefore there should be degradation, the absence of which is conflicting.)

11.41am: Ram applies to continue questioning McDonald on another day. He now calls investigating officer Supt Jude Balacious Pereira to take the stand.

Karpal asks about the Pusrawi medical report on Saiful.

"Yes, I retrieved it from the hospital on Aug 6, 2008. This is the original copy," replies Pereira.

The original document is marked as evidence.

12pm: Court decides that trial will resume on Sept 19 to 23.

source:malaysiakini

Mungkin ada sperma Saiful di dubur sendiri, kata pakar

Foreign expert says possible Saiful’s sperm found in own anus

"Dr. Brian McDonald: "Sperma Saiful ditemui pada sampel yg berada di dalam juboq Saiful sendiri."

Dr. McDonald kata ada DNA Male-Y dan Saiful dalam laporan sampel, dan yang paling dominan ialah DNA Saiful!"

Sample diambil 26 Jun, buat report polis 28 Jun! Jumpa Najib 24 Jun beritahu kat Najib kena liwat pada 26 Jun! ...Saiful saksi benar kata hakim.

Report polis belum dibuat, sample dah siap diambil ...tahniah polis!

Sample dari hospital disimpan oleh Peg. Polis Jude Pereira kat bilik dia selama 2 hari, dibuka seal baru dihantar kpd jabatan kimia, hasilnya DNA Anwar!

Semalam mahkamah diberitahu jabatan kimia TIDAK ADA sijil akreditasi ..maknanya ia tak ikut standard antarabangsa.

Sodomy 1 -Wrong date.Condo under renovation;
Sodomy 2 - Samples taken before Police report.Wrong date again

Malaysia is famous for the tallest tower, the biggest ketupat, the largest Malaysian flag and so on. Now you have Saiful's sperm getting to where the sun doesn't shine - his very own juboq!!!

According to Dr.MacDonald samples were said to be more than 100 hours old and had not been kept in the suggested manner, in a freezer. Therefore there should be degradation.

But Dr.MacDonald discoverd the samples are in pristine condition and there is no evidence of degradation. What does it tell you?

Certainty those samples is in fact fresh. If that the case these specimens is invalid to this case...

cheers.